much ado

Jun. 30th, 2008 04:24 pm
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Listening to The Savage Lovecast again today, and remembered [livejournal.com profile] chernobylred condemning Loveline's Dr. Drew. Driving home late at night during crunchtime, I really used to enjoy Loveline when it was Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla. The two of them were a great pair, because Adam is hilarious and Drew always seemed very insightful in terms of being able to identify trauma in someone's past that they'd not brought up in the question. And they were always at each other's throats, Drew largely through scathing silences, and Adam coming down on Drew for not loosening up a little.

Hoping to hear some  more of that, I found the podcast for loveline and downloaded a couple episodes -- but only got about 10 minutes into the first one before giving up. Drew's current partner is something called "Stryker." In those 10 minutes, the guy was a total kissass to Drew, there was no tension at all. Then an 18 year old woman called in with a request for advice on "how to do anal" because she'd be enjoying it but suddenly things would hurt. Drew said, flat out, that of course it hurts, because she's using an orifice for something other than it was intended. He basically balled her out for being stupid in not realizing that going against nature's design would result in anything other than pain, and entirely ignored that she said that she said she'd been enjoying it.
Which is a kind of integrity, if you look on every exit as an entrance somewhere else.
- Player, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
I'm not promoting anal intercourse or any other form of sodomy to you heathens, per se, but Drew's explanation could also be easily extended to oral sex, or even kissing, since those use the mouth for something other than eating or making talky-noises. Some people are into feet, others into navels, nostrils, earlobes, ear canals, eyeballs, and it's certainly arguable that such play is outside the realm of nature's intended use. I think it's weird that a woman can call a sex and relationship advice talkshow and hear something that simplistically defined.

So Loveline's been deleted from my list of things to listen to, even if I remain nostalgic about the show's old format and tone.

(Oddly enough, I recall a variation of that R&G line was used in the film version when Player offers the services of another actor as a prostitute, a cute young man in a woman's dress, and remember laughing out loud at the cleverness of "exit as an entrance" in that context.)

Date: 2008-06-30 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com
I didn't actually condemn him. I just said I felt really sorry for his wife and what must be a phenomenally boring sex life. Oh, and maybe that he is a narrow-minded prig.

Date: 2008-06-30 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chronovore.livejournal.com
"dis"? Is that the vernacular of today's young people? You dissed Dr. Drew? Maybe I jumped sidelong into Dante's "Dis," since I've already managed two pretentious quotes.

Date: 2008-06-30 02:53 pm (UTC)

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